Saturday, November 22, 2008 12:34 AM EST
North End project sparks debate
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Should two homes on Pleasant Street be replaced by “affordable” multi-unit condominiums?
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![]() Should two homes on Pleasant Street be replaced by “affordable” multi-unit condominiums? |
WESTERLY — Several of the town’s affordable housing advocates are saying “no” to a plan to construct 17 condominiums priced for low-to-moderate income residents in the North End.
Called Pleasant Street Court, the comprehensive permit proposal went before the Planning Board earlier this week. Members are expected to vote next month.
Peter Sacco, of Sacco Enterprises Inc., plans to rehabilitate two existing buildings, construct 13 new units and put in 34 parking spaces at 9 and 13 Pleasant St.
Two units would be priced at market rate, four would be priced at 80 percent of the area median income and the remainder would sell for either 100 or 120 percent of the area median income, according to project attorney Margaret Hogan.
Attorney Charles Soloveitzik, whose family owns 13 Pleasant St., said he does not want to leave a legacy of blight.
“We see an opportunity to take care of that issue,” he said, adding they aim to put in owner-occupied condominiums.
“I don’t think it’s a bad project just because many of the neighbors are worried about it,” he told the board Tuesday.
Concerned neighbors included Pleasant Street Baptist Church Pastor Joshua A. McClure, a North End Crime Watch board member, who pointed to the project’s density as too great. He favors rehabilitating existing structures and single-family homes in the North End.
“I think in fairness to the people, these 17 units should not be permitted to be built on 2 acres of land,” he said, drawing applause from other attendees.
McClure came to Westerly in the early 1980s with a vision that included providing housing for community residents. The North End Crime Watch has in the past 14 years helped relieve the neighborhood’s drug and absentee landlord problems and rehab some homes.
“There’s a difference in the spirit of the people in the North End,” he said.
Adrian Pelchat, chairman of the North End Crime Watch and a member of the Affordable Housing Plan Committee, applauded Sacco’s effort to construct affordable units, but agreed with McClure.
“We’re making the North End a place to be proud [of] again,” he said. A ratio of six units per acre would be consistent with the neighborhood’s “flavor,” he said.
Pleasant Street abutter Dave Panciera said too much effort had been made in the neighborhood to allow a dense development.
“This smacks of 1950’s housing projects and, as a resident of the North End, I greatly resent the notion … that the North End is a great place to dump a number of affordable houses,” he said.
Four other neighbors — including some from the Maples condominiums at the intersection of High and Pleasant streets — spoke against the plan for traffic and overcrowding reasons.
Planning Board member Patricia Douglas, head of the town’s Affordable Housing Plan Committee, said the town’s plan calls for units priced for those earning 80 percent of the area median income.
“That is the need. That is the breakdown of the income of Westerly. So that should be the majority, not the minority of units,” Douglas said.
Sacco indicated he could deviate from the prices approved by monitoring agent Rhode Island Housing and Mortgage Finance Corporation.
“There is nothing to stop me ... from offering eight or 10 of those units at 80 percent as opposed to what’s approved,” he said.
Planning Board member Robert Chiaradio said an “inordinate” number of multi-family houses are already in the North End.
“I’m very concerned about ramming more multi-family units into an area that already has too many,” he said.
Board member Thomas Toscano, a North End native, agreed such a project “deteriorates” the neighborhood.
“I’m so sick and tired of the North End being dropped on by everybody in town,” he said, adding this plan would not be entertained farther south.
“You don’t care,” he added. “Because if you cared [about the neighborhood], you wouldn’t come here with a project like this.”
Toscano pointed to the state law governing comprehensive permits as a “bad law” that does not consider the surrounding area and shape of the property.
He described the narrow Pleasant Street lots as “two bowling lanes” in an already overcrowded part of town.
“To heck with the law if the law is bad,” Toscano said. “When the law bumps up against common sense, common sense has to win.”
Toscano later urged fellow board members to proceed cautiously: “There are other developers looking over our shoulder. And if we slide this one by without any thought we’ll be inundated [with comprehensive permit applications].”
Under the state’s Low and Moderate Income Housing Act, an applicant only has to go before the Planning Board for a comprehensive permit. At least 25 percent of the units must be priced at low or moderate-income rates.
To promote the construction of affordable units in various parts of town, the ordinance provides a density bonus — 3 units in the case of the Pleasant Street Court project.
Attorney Hogan said Tuesday’s hearing was not the appropriate place to argue this law’s merits. She added it was “disturbing” to hear that investing money into a site would bring down a neighborhood.
Land use planner Joseph Lombardo, a former Westerly, Hopkinton and Richmond planner, told board members the project would move the town closer to its state-mandated affordable housing goals. He found the project in line with town zoning, the comprehensive plan and the neighborhood.
And board member Kenneth Sorensen said a decision should be based on the facts presented and expert testimony to avoid treading on a landowner’s right to develop.
The project initially went before the board with 32 affordable units planned. In August 2007, the plan was scaled back to 28 affordable units.
“So along the way, there have been various iterations of this project, each time reducing the density,” Hogan said.
Called Pleasant Street Court, the comprehensive permit proposal went before the Planning Board earlier this week. Members are expected to vote next month.
Peter Sacco, of Sacco Enterprises Inc., plans to rehabilitate two existing buildings, construct 13 new units and put in 34 parking spaces at 9 and 13 Pleasant St.
Two units would be priced at market rate, four would be priced at 80 percent of the area median income and the remainder would sell for either 100 or 120 percent of the area median income, according to project attorney Margaret Hogan.
Attorney Charles Soloveitzik, whose family owns 13 Pleasant St., said he does not want to leave a legacy of blight.
“We see an opportunity to take care of that issue,” he said, adding they aim to put in owner-occupied condominiums.
“I don’t think it’s a bad project just because many of the neighbors are worried about it,” he told the board Tuesday.
Concerned neighbors included Pleasant Street Baptist Church Pastor Joshua A. McClure, a North End Crime Watch board member, who pointed to the project’s density as too great. He favors rehabilitating existing structures and single-family homes in the North End.
“I think in fairness to the people, these 17 units should not be permitted to be built on 2 acres of land,” he said, drawing applause from other attendees.
McClure came to Westerly in the early 1980s with a vision that included providing housing for community residents. The North End Crime Watch has in the past 14 years helped relieve the neighborhood’s drug and absentee landlord problems and rehab some homes.
“There’s a difference in the spirit of the people in the North End,” he said.
Adrian Pelchat, chairman of the North End Crime Watch and a member of the Affordable Housing Plan Committee, applauded Sacco’s effort to construct affordable units, but agreed with McClure.
“We’re making the North End a place to be proud [of] again,” he said. A ratio of six units per acre would be consistent with the neighborhood’s “flavor,” he said.
Pleasant Street abutter Dave Panciera said too much effort had been made in the neighborhood to allow a dense development.
“This smacks of 1950’s housing projects and, as a resident of the North End, I greatly resent the notion … that the North End is a great place to dump a number of affordable houses,” he said.
Four other neighbors — including some from the Maples condominiums at the intersection of High and Pleasant streets — spoke against the plan for traffic and overcrowding reasons.
Planning Board member Patricia Douglas, head of the town’s Affordable Housing Plan Committee, said the town’s plan calls for units priced for those earning 80 percent of the area median income.
“That is the need. That is the breakdown of the income of Westerly. So that should be the majority, not the minority of units,” Douglas said.
Sacco indicated he could deviate from the prices approved by monitoring agent Rhode Island Housing and Mortgage Finance Corporation.
“There is nothing to stop me ... from offering eight or 10 of those units at 80 percent as opposed to what’s approved,” he said.
Planning Board member Robert Chiaradio said an “inordinate” number of multi-family houses are already in the North End.
“I’m very concerned about ramming more multi-family units into an area that already has too many,” he said.
Board member Thomas Toscano, a North End native, agreed such a project “deteriorates” the neighborhood.
“I’m so sick and tired of the North End being dropped on by everybody in town,” he said, adding this plan would not be entertained farther south.
“You don’t care,” he added. “Because if you cared [about the neighborhood], you wouldn’t come here with a project like this.”
Toscano pointed to the state law governing comprehensive permits as a “bad law” that does not consider the surrounding area and shape of the property.
He described the narrow Pleasant Street lots as “two bowling lanes” in an already overcrowded part of town.
“To heck with the law if the law is bad,” Toscano said. “When the law bumps up against common sense, common sense has to win.”
Toscano later urged fellow board members to proceed cautiously: “There are other developers looking over our shoulder. And if we slide this one by without any thought we’ll be inundated [with comprehensive permit applications].”
Under the state’s Low and Moderate Income Housing Act, an applicant only has to go before the Planning Board for a comprehensive permit. At least 25 percent of the units must be priced at low or moderate-income rates.
To promote the construction of affordable units in various parts of town, the ordinance provides a density bonus — 3 units in the case of the Pleasant Street Court project.
Attorney Hogan said Tuesday’s hearing was not the appropriate place to argue this law’s merits. She added it was “disturbing” to hear that investing money into a site would bring down a neighborhood.
Land use planner Joseph Lombardo, a former Westerly, Hopkinton and Richmond planner, told board members the project would move the town closer to its state-mandated affordable housing goals. He found the project in line with town zoning, the comprehensive plan and the neighborhood.
And board member Kenneth Sorensen said a decision should be based on the facts presented and expert testimony to avoid treading on a landowner’s right to develop.
The project initially went before the board with 32 affordable units planned. In August 2007, the plan was scaled back to 28 affordable units.
“So along the way, there have been various iterations of this project, each time reducing the density,” Hogan said.
Lloyd wrote on Nov 26, 2008 2:16 PM:
" You people in the North End should be GLAD that someone is willing to up grade your neighborhood with new construction! Those big old multi family houses are such fire hazards with them old furnaces and space heater...one house goes up in flames then several do. I think these new condo's will be an improvement to that provished land! Be glad someone is willing to take the gamble mixing new in with old. Have a nice Thanks Giving. "
whatever wrote on Nov 25, 2008 2:57 PM:
" Let what has been built sell before we have another potential bail out on our hands.And yes the Park Ave purchase for the school system was a bail out to a choice few.....you know who they are,former town council and planning board members.Look at the vacancy rate of rental properties alone....doesn't this set up another collapsale project.Mr Sacco please trying to make money on the backs of the lesser fortunate in town and shame on the rest. "
Coralie wrote on Nov 25, 2008 11:17 AM:
" Tain't NO Mortage affordable! Houses and Condo's COST TOO MUCH! If you can sell a Condo for $45,000 then, maybe people could afford them. The prices of houses and condo's is just too high as is rent, food, and just about everything that you can think of! Nothings like it use to be. If your not college educated...forget about buying a house or a cond because your paycheck just isen't enough. "
Kathy wrote on Nov 25, 2008 10:42 AM:
" What about all the condo's they built on airport road? Also Cherenzia built 77 condo's in fountain crest. These areas are closer to the beach than the North End. I say if it's good enough for those people it's good enough for the north end people. What do they think THERE BETTER THAN THE OTHER PEOPLE IN TOWN? "
Chuck wrote on Nov 25, 2008 10:37 AM:
" I live on Mockingbird lane. What about all those CONDOMINNINS that Cherenzia put up behind Lovette Lane? FOUNTAIN CREST? Now the people who live on Mockingbird Lane and Chickadee Lane have more traffic to contend with. It's no big deal! It's not like there going up and down the road all day. They go to work and they come home. If it's good enough for us it's good enough for the North End too! STOP CRYING AND BE HAPPY THAT SOMEONE IS WILLING TO BUILD NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THAT TIRED OLD NEIGHBORHOOD! "
carol wrote on Nov 25, 2008 7:02 AM:
" ok, let's get this straight.... the intelligent taxpayers of westerly voted YES to allow the school department to buy CONDOS on narragansett ave to use as school space for the high school some years ago and dick (?) celico made a fortune off this. the taxpayers and the school department never even looked into the fact that the CONDOS did not meet the standard for classroom space (as this is how it was presented to the taxpayers... for use as classroom space). now it is a mere parking lot/open space... what a waste! we need affordable housing in westerly. wake up! the average rent for 3 bdrms is 1300-2000 a month. a condo mortgage is much more affordable. who cares where they go? affordable housing is just that.... affordable! let sacco have his right to build on the land he owns. it is not like he is planning to construct anything unneeded. "
Pleasant Street Resident wrote on Nov 22, 2008 7:41 PM:
" Nobody wants that development here! We believe it would be too crowded and not in keeping with the neighborhood.
If Mr. Sacco has money to burn, why doesn't he sink some into the various sites around town that need rehabbing. I am sure he could find enough to house low and moderate income residents, meanwhile, he would help preserve the historic buildings that give Westerly it's charm. "
If Mr. Sacco has money to burn, why doesn't he sink some into the various sites around town that need rehabbing. I am sure he could find enough to house low and moderate income residents, meanwhile, he would help preserve the historic buildings that give Westerly it's charm. "
noth end resident for 60yrs wrote on Nov 22, 2008 9:25 AM:
" its amazing that many developers and slum landlords once lived in the north end. Now that they have moved on up to the east side they dont seem to care about westerly or the character of the town as long as there are making their money.Further,i feel developers are not taxed high enough. We deserve better!!! "
Tim wrote on Nov 22, 2008 6:57 AM:
" I am low income, I am a tradesman, I have a clean criminal record and a perfect driving record for those who say low income breads crime take a closer look at the individuls before judging them I agree that we need more affordable housing but do not knock those who work for you and have family's also that do not make as much as you!! Find some where and I am sure there is other property that can place this project! Too many greedy people in this area selling homes above what they are even worth!! Think about the ones you call when you need help, we do not hessitate to help you so in return think about the low income tradesmen and women that make up a good part of this area!! "
North End wrote on Nov 21, 2008 6:56 PM:
" It's a shame what the North End has become. And it continues to get worse. Low income breeds crime... "
Andrea wrote on Nov 21, 2008 4:46 PM:
" let's recall the planning board chairman at the next town council meeting
our neighborhood behind tower street school is all for that "
our neighborhood behind tower street school is all for that "
And, then there's wrote on Nov 21, 2008 4:14 PM:
" Irogois Hills. What a mess that thing is going to be. Now that Dick Anthony is on the Town Council and can no longer sit on the Planning Board, there is one lone voice on that Board who will try to keep development in check in this Town. It just so happens that the applicant for Iroquois Hills is a relative to the Chairman of the Planning Board. Let us just wait and see how the Board votes on this one! It should tell us a great deal about the Board members. "
E Parrilla wrote on Nov 21, 2008 11:56 AM:
" Add this latest to many blights in the North End - the worst in my opinion the excavation of land between West St and Marriott Ave. That should NEVER have been allowed! "
sue wrote on Nov 21, 2008 11:40 AM:
" we have condos every where that are not selling look on granite st in the shopping plaza, look on franklin street (that locations building more), do we really need more? not in the north end we don't! nl or stonington had a surplus of condo's that weren't selling, they auctioned them off at deceent prices .......... why can't westerly do that with our surplus?
simply said not in our neighborhood mr sacco! you'll be bringhng blight to the the north end, a true classic neighborhood that for historical reasons should be preserved not "murdered"
unemployments at an all time high in ri, the economy in slump, this is not the time or place for your project!
yes the maples residents are correct about the traffic problem, coming into or out of pleasant street from high street is an accident waiting to happen (look at the bad blind corner when you come down high st)!
again thanks but no thanks!! "
simply said not in our neighborhood mr sacco! you'll be bringhng blight to the the north end, a true classic neighborhood that for historical reasons should be preserved not "murdered"
unemployments at an all time high in ri, the economy in slump, this is not the time or place for your project!
yes the maples residents are correct about the traffic problem, coming into or out of pleasant street from high street is an accident waiting to happen (look at the bad blind corner when you come down high st)!
again thanks but no thanks!! "
Harry wrote on Nov 21, 2008 11:16 AM:
" isn't the ritacco request in the backyard of this new request,.....
ask mr. toscano to voice his opinion on that request also "
ask mr. toscano to voice his opinion on that request also "
Avondale Jane wrote on Nov 21, 2008 11:11 AM:
" what does Mr. Toscano know--he has voted for so so many blighted issues as a planning board member in last 15 years..or was he told how to vote for them ...it seems odd he is against north end projects.. "
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