jack wrote on Nov 25, 2008 6:19 PM:
" re: WOW's post Well said,wow. I too am greatful to some good cops I've met. Like the state trooper who picked me up walking on the highway (gas can in hand) and gave me a ride. Also the Coventry cop who stopped me for driving drunk a long time ago( maybe he saved my life or someone else's).I forgive the rookie punk that punched me in the gut in Warwick(while I was handcuffed). There's good and bad in all professions.
Nobody's perfect and a good cop knows that. Luckily,bad cops are the minority. happy Thanksgiving to all "
To: Complete Chaos wrote on Nov 24, 2008 5:18 PM:
" Ah, to the rescue of your embattled agency. Odd sir that you have knowledge that the road surface conditions were "wet" when your young officer suffered his indiscretion and mishap just over the bridge. So it appears you have a little knowledge yourself. Without going into any further detail on this or any of the many other disciplinary matters that continue to plague our fine Westerly Police; I will say that the Stonington Police conduct themselves in a manner that is nearly beyond reproach. All should look up to this manner of Police Administration. Your agency should strive to attain such standards. No back room deals and no breaks. If you break the rules, you pay the price. It is referred to as “consistency.” Until the day that your agency conducts themselves in this manner we will continue to shake our heads in dismay and disgust as we continue to read of your agencies professional and personal indiscretions. You see in Stonington one would never assault a subject in custody with a flashlight and later retire as a Captain with a criminal record. "
Two Cents wrote on Nov 24, 2008 9:40 AM:
" Chaos you have no proof to back yourself up. If your going to try to debate at least have some solid facts. You are embarrassing yourself. "
To Kaos wrote on Nov 24, 2008 8:38 AM:
" stop being racists gosh "
complete chaos wrote on Nov 23, 2008 1:48 PM:
" Kaos...if you know so much about law enforcement, why do you keep referring to the WPD, SPD issues. how do you know so much of the details??? stop speculating that the individual was intoxicated. Where is the proof??? is it possible he lost control in the rain soaked streets and it was just an accident? mad cause one of your officers made a justified decision and exercised professional courtesy? does the public know that spd officers are REQUIRED to give tickets to anyone involved in an accident and stripped of thier descression?? No more breaks according to the SPD administration. everyone gets a ticket or is arrested. And their officers are punished when they decided to use their descression instead of ruining someone's life or decide not to add to their financial burden by not issuing a ticket or arresting them. Great job acting as leaders over there. talk about the blind flock lead by blind herders!! seems like you are one of those herders yourself. "
not a cops cop wrote on Nov 22, 2008 8:49 PM:
" KAOS, arent u a little "curios" o over this whole thing. u seem a little "well informed" about the policies and protocols. I wouldn't be suprised if you served a police department in the past and now have negative feelings towards those who serve with dignity and respect for others. Dont punish the masses of good officers for the poor performance of a few. "
Mauti wrote on Nov 22, 2008 10:58 AM:
" And who can forget Hopkinton's building official Charles Mauti. He irritated the Hopkinton police chief by enforcing building codes on the new police station. Next thing you know the man is being arrested for a minor vehicle infraction by Westerly police lieutenant Matarese. A Westerly PD computer was used illegally by the cops but nobody saw nutt'in. Yeah, cops are the most ethical people in the world. I guess if you are looking for revenge and your a cop, it can be a useful job. Matarese got herself a nice retirement party and lots of praise from all kind of town bigwigs. Crime does pay if you're a cop. "
citizen wrote on Nov 21, 2008 10:45 PM:
" Who do you call when you need help?...911. Who responds? Police. Police respond to crimes, medical assists, and fires. So the next time you need help, call 411, your local politician, or KAOS, and see how much help you get. "
jack wrote on Nov 21, 2008 9:32 PM:
" re:Another badge, Everyone knows everything postings. I assume you are ex-cops.Funny, you didn't mention anything about how you equally apply the law as I asked in my earlier remarks.I didn't mean to imply all cops are bad,its kind of like plumbers. there's good plumbers, and there's bad ones. The difference is police have the badge and authority but you never, I repeat never hear of a cop being arrested for anything. Police tell already strapped taxpayers "here, sorry, just doing my job" as they hand out tickets for things.The 'just doing my job' doesnt apply to fellow officers though,does it? What? Ohh, cops never break the law (or drink) I see.Thanks for 'letting' us sleep at night. Us taxpayers need our rest so we can go to work, so you 'life protectors' can have full bennies and great pay. Oh, life time pensions to boot, and THATS WHAT WE DO! You're welcome. "
Kaos wrote on Nov 21, 2008 8:40 PM:
" Continued below 5 comments: You are reciting a very well known poem of police officers, real police officers. Don’t pretend to post your comments as a member of sworn law enforcement as you are clearly not. The majority of police officers in this locale are focused on genuine law enforcement; however, we all know this is unfortunately not the case. No agency that shoots bullets into the engine block of a moving vehicle for nothing more than motor vehicle charges will ever be certified through accreditation. I suggest everyone read section 41.2.3 of the CALEA Accreditation process concerning use of road blocks. The fact that a cleverly, well supervised completion of a “police report” listed the officer as in fear of his life on a dead end road by nearly being “pinned” is certainly cause for review by the RISP as it is after all creative report writing. It is purely manufactured.
From previously cited incidents where a Westerly Officer was involved in an alcohol related crash in Stonington and given the walk or where another officer was stopped in Stonington operating an unregistered motor vehicle for over seven months, also with an improperl "
kaos wrote on Nov 21, 2008 8:35 PM:
" To: ANOTHER BADGE,
If in fact sir, you are a sworn officer anywhere. You sir, are the one we should all fear. Your ignorance and arrogance jumps off the page. You must earn trust and respect and never swing it like a baseball bat such as you do now.
"
Space Oddity aka Bill G. wrote on Nov 21, 2008 8:19 PM:
" My grandfather was a career police officer (30 years) in Springfield, MA. My father was also in Massachusetts public safety. My grandfather once broke up a domestic dispute, but in the process, the "bad guy" slammed the car door on my grandfather's arm. That had to hurt. I remember my grandfather teaching me how to handle "wild drunks" - applying pressure to their finger when the finger is pressed against the palm. That can't be fun either. I considered applying to Massachusetts SP as a second career, but I probably couldn't get through the physical training.
Police work is hard work, it is stressful work and it requires diplomacy and skill.
But there are also police officers who are enabled by the power that comes with badge or gun. And I have experienced this many times first hand.
"
everyone knows everyting wrote on Nov 21, 2008 7:10 PM:
" First, let me say I have been both a cop and soldier and if both jobs were easy, everyone would do them, but they're not. Second, it was unknown why the suspects were running and who they were. What if they had just assaulted, or worse, your mom or kid and fled in a stolen car, still want the cops to just stop chasing them. cops deal with negativity all day, every day. Every hear anyone calling the cops when they win the lottery or have a beautiful baby?? No, only when their neighbor disrespects them or a bad guy is breaking into their house or the dog next door won't stop barking. lasly, PLEASE do not group all cops as the same. Thats as foolish as saying all embalmers are necrophiliacs becaue one disrespected a corpse or all priests are predators because one of them violated a child. UNFAIR at best. I urge you all if you feel so strongly towards the Police, please do not call them when someone is breaking into your house in the middle of the night. Call another person in another profession you trust more. ME...I'M CALLING THE COPS!!! "
ANOTHER BADGE... wrote on Nov 21, 2008 6:26 PM:
" We make YOUR problems OUR problems.WE listen to you when no one else will.WE protect you and your families lives from harm's way.Some of us are overly "conceded" and WE SHOULD BE!!WE let you sleep at night without any worries.What do criminals fear?? THEY FEAR US!! WE defend and protect your lives for a living...WHAT DO YOU DO??
I AM BADGE HEAVY!!I EARNED IT!!! "
New London wrote on Nov 21, 2008 9:09 AM:
" I used to share the same immature view of cops that many here have. I almost became a cop as a young man. Several years ago I experienced cops up close and personal. I lived a block away from a New London establishment known for being a hangout for cops and firemen. Believe me, cops and firemen were driving drunk on a regular basis. Never, ever heard of any of them being arrested for it.
As time went on I came to a startling realization, the cops would talk about their arrests for the day, often involving low level drug dealers arrested on the street of New London. They would talk about these arrests while accepting free drinks from the people supplying the drugs to the dealers...the connected guys.
It may not be every cop, but power does corrupt, and some of the most corrupt people I've known have been cops. Unfortunately, even cops who don't participate in things as I describe know it happens and they tolerate it. They lack honor. Too bad...it was hard having the allusion shattered. "
melanie wrote on Nov 21, 2008 6:57 AM:
" Don't fault the police for doing their jobs. Agreed, a few have their own set of rules, but so do we. The next time u c one on a traffic detail in the freezing cold, maybe bringing him a coffee is a nice idea. Try appreciating what people do for a change. No matter what we do for a living, people r gonna complain about us. Does not matter your line of work. There r always complainers out there. "
jack wrote on Nov 21, 2008 4:19 AM:
" Seems this arena has become a place to gripe about the police. Well, I have a few questions I've always wondered about ,so here goes. 1. F.O.P lodges serve booze, right? Question: has the SUN or anyone for that matter know of a case where a policeman has been pulled over and cited for DWI/DUI after leaving such a club? 2.Whats up with this 'Policeman's bill of rights'thing?
These people have thier OWN?? bill of rights? The SUN should do a story on that. In the spirit of full disclosure let me say that I had a DWI 25 years ago. I am glad the cop pulled me over because it taught me a great lesson, I'm just curious why we never hear of policemen being cited for this offence. Cops don't drink?? Please,c'mon now...we all know thats not true. I'd love to hear a cop be straight up and honest and say what we kind of suspect. That is, cops don't hassle cops. Its just the way it is.I'm not saying they should. I'm saying cut us civilians some slack now and then ..too. "
kaos wrote on Nov 20, 2008 10:54 AM:
" Why is it I must ask that the Westerly Sun refuses to conduct an investigative inquiry regarding the incidents involving Westerly Officers DWI and unregisterd MV with unsecured infant. a little quid pro quo perhaps. All of the documentation is part of the record with SPD. I am very surprised at you folks down on Main St. Very surprised, but certainly not shocked "
kaos wrote on Nov 20, 2008 10:49 AM:
" continued -
secured infant in car seat. These officers do not hesitate to write summonses or make custodial arrests for the very same thing.
Until we hold our LE Officers accountable to a set of standards that are above reproach and within the confines of well established accreditation programs, we will forever be reading of their shortcomings and mistakes. Mistakes I might add that will undoubtedly result in the loss of life at some point.
The use of a firearm to attempt to stop the motor vehicle in this instance was a reckless use of deadly physical force without regard for the passenger or operator and is not justified in any way shape or form. I implore any of you to run the scenario past an accredited agency to determine the end result for the officers involved in the chase and ensuing flurry of rounds fired at the offending vehicle. I assure you those officers would be “home for the holidays.” Until we hold our officers accountable to a set of standards that they can all hold their heads high, we will continue to read comments such as this.
"
Local Officer wrote on Nov 19, 2008 10:21 PM:
" It makes me sick how clueless some of these people are. You may take an hour for lunch and several coffee breaks but call me lazy when I have a cup. You raise hell when someone cuts you off in traffic but let me catch you doing the same thing and Im picking on you. You know all the traffic laws, but you've never gotten a single ticket you deserve. You shout foul when you observe me driving fast to a call but raise hell if I take to long to respond to your complaint. You call it part of my job is someone strikes me, but call it police brutality if I strike back. You say you have no use for me at all but of course its ok if I change a flat tire for your wife, or save your sons life by giving him CPR. So stand on your soap box and rant and rave on how I do my job, but remember that your property, family, and perhaps even your life depends on me or one of my buddies, the cops. "
Cops vs Soldiers wrote on Nov 19, 2008 10:38 AM:
" The reason we slam cops rather than soldiers despite the fact that some see little difference between them is for the very reason cops are not as honorable as they make themselves seem. Ask yourself this question; If 10 cops responded to a call where a kid wouldnt stop for a cop and somehow the kid was shot dead, how many of you think we would actually get those 10 cops to tell the truth and not try to CYA. I for one would bet maybe 1. And I would also bet that 1 cop that told the truth would be looked upon as a bad cop by his peers because he would now be considered a snitch. Do you think I am wrong. I know I am not. "
Enough wrote on Nov 19, 2008 7:55 AM:
" Ok, enough about the coffee and donuts. Have you never bought a coffee and donut? If you had to drive all day or night, what would you do on your break? Even if not on break, is it a sin or crime to drink a coffee? How many of you have or had desk jobs and drank coffee throughout the day? Did anyone raz you for it? How many of you have said at one time or another that you can't live without your coffee? The police obviously can't keep a pot of coffee brewing in their vehicle. So what if they buy two or three or more coffees during their shift. If it keeps them happy, warm and alert, so what, it's their dime. If all adults actually behaved like adults, we wouldn't need the police. When it comes down to it, an officer who is protecting my family's safety can drink all the coffee he wants. More important things in the world to worry about than a cop's coffee. Thank you to the WPD for always being there. (and no, I'm not related to a cop) "
Space Oddity aka Bill G. wrote on Nov 19, 2008 7:22 AM:
" Police work is hard work - no doubt about it. I told a Groton, CT officer that I couldn't deal with the dirtbags he sees daily. His response - about 2% of his interactions are with decent people, the balance are the dirtbags. I am sure Westerly is no different. I also asked a CT State Trooper once about his job in Willimantic - his reply "the hardest job you will ever love."
For a little balance - many police are bullies and are threatening to ordinary citizens. I've dealt with it in Westerly, Hopkinton and with the RI State Police. My wife is severely mentally ill and most Westerly police have made matters worse. One came over and was screaming at her to take her medicine - she's paranoid and irrational and now an armed and uniformed man is screaming at her. I'll name names if you want. Many Westerly officers were totally abusive...in groups. One on one, slightly different story. Not so confident. In one crisis, one Westerly Sgt. asked me "what medicine [I] was taking?" To serve and protect? Not that time. "
Bertmeister wrote on Nov 19, 2008 4:49 AM:
" A big thank you to the Police Officers of Hopkinton. You all continue to do an excellant job. "
jack wrote on Nov 19, 2008 2:16 AM:
" I dont fault the police for trying to stop someone who won't pull over when ordered. But a few of these post-ers are obviously 'cop worshippers'. You can always tell by their use of phrases 'putting their life on the line' ect. Ironworkers put their life on the line,don't they? Why are cops &
firemen(old school here, I don't say 'firefighter')inordinatly lauded for doing a job THEY signed up for? I dare say if those cops in that chase were honest they'd tell you that it was kind of exciting. Usually the 'putting their life on the line' consist of writing boring fender-bender reports and ticketing us taxpaying saps for minor traffic offences.Cops are well paid and get the zenith of bennies. Enough of this 'police idol worship'. They're just country cops doin their job. Nothin more, nothin less.Save your praise for our men/women in Iraq and Afganistan. "
South County Cop wrote on Nov 18, 2008 11:18 PM:
" Ah Yes,
It is so easy to criticize the cops from your keyboard. Especially when all you know about law enforcement is what you see on TV.
I challenge anyone writing negatively to do a ride along with your local police department and experience what it is really like to be a cop. I guarantee you'll have more respect for them.
"
Fatty wrote on Nov 18, 2008 10:06 PM:
" I have heard from reliable sources that Honey Dew Donuts is opening a francise right inside the huge Westerly Police Dept. Reasons cited as tremendous gasoline savings will result, so the town will save money on all those new cruisers. Cops will continue to get free coffee and donuts, with the Town paying for the goodies via a slush fund. "
foster algier wrote on Nov 18, 2008 8:31 PM:
" those of you that see this as somesort of follie shoul live in a fun city like orlando. We have things like this happen every day. I value the protection of our first responders. When innocent people are killed because some one can't obey our basic laws you end up feeling the pain. You should be thankful that this is a rareity and it end with the bad being cought before he hurt someone that you love.
please correct or forgive any spelling errors "
Space Oddity wrote on Nov 18, 2008 8:06 PM:
" I am neutral on this one. Police need to be respected for the danger they face daily, but for some, incidents like this are a feeding frenzy.
"
Kaos wrote on Nov 18, 2008 7:01 PM:
" A violation of well established policies, procedures and protocol. The Sun should look into it and post the procedures for an incident involving MV charges only. The road should never have been blocked and shots from a firearm should never have been the end result. Between the manner in which these officers, including Westerly operate cruisers at routine high rates of speed and the continued incidents involving DWI, unlicensed operation and operating unregistered personal vehicle for over seven months before being held accountable by Stonington Police, it surely is a sad state of affairs. It's just a matter of time before someone is killed by a speeding cruiser or now by an bullet fired at an engine block of all things. The Police in Westerly and Hopkinton require policing and most all new leadership. Absolutely uncalled for!! "
Jake wrote on Nov 18, 2008 5:57 PM:
" Of course people are jumping at the chance to insult a police officer. FYI for some of you, the officer's life was in danger and that gives him/her the right to shoot. Second, if the gun is pointing at the engine block then nobody is going to get hurt. A bullet isn't going to ricochet that easily. Nice job, departments. "
Local resident wrote on Nov 18, 2008 4:25 PM:
" Thank you to both departments. Those that add to this blog should be very gratful to those that willingly put themselves in harm's way. Yes, gratefully Westerly does not have major crimes, but NO ONE calls the station for an officer to come over cause they are having a good time. I'm sure if you people needed their assistance, you wouldn't be quite so sassy to thier faces. Give credit where its due.
GOOD JOB "
Patricia Mello wrote on Nov 18, 2008 3:43 PM:
" To those who think this was fun and games I wish you could have witnessed a officer doing a road detail in Ashaway that was nearly killed among many others as it was only one lane open and this man drove straight threw it. The officer had just stopped the flow of traffic and was about to flag the other side when this idot appeared out of the blue going at a very fast rate of speed. I commend both departments! These deciated people put there lives on the line everyday for low life people like this man. "
RE: Macho Chase wrote on Nov 18, 2008 2:47 PM:
" You don't have a clue. Maybe the officers should just let everyone who refuses to stop go. Would anyone stop if they thought the police wouldn't or couldn't chase them? How about putting some responsibility on the guy who refuses to stop? Maybe one day you or someone you know will be assaulted or violated and when the bad guy refuses to stop for the police, you can risk your life and try and arrest them. "
Deputy Doggie wrote on Nov 18, 2008 2:19 PM:
" Shot his gun at an iron block engine... Ummm.. Is that something learned at the police academy or is that something you learn by watching police academy? "
Thank You- wrote on Nov 18, 2008 1:43 PM:
" Maybe it's the public that needs to put down the remote control and stop watching all the cop shows. You really don't know what the guy was running away from until you stop him do you? Maybe if he's acting so desperate to get away there's a reason. More people should respect the emergency services and the fact that they put their lives on the line everyday. Thank God bad things don't often happen around here, but they could! Grow up! "
CHIPS wrote on Nov 18, 2008 1:00 PM:
" Compeletely Hindered of Intelligence Patrol Squad: I have to question the flawed reasoning for firing a gun to try to get the car to stop, when at the time there was an unknown passenger in the car- a passenger who was a potentially innocent party to this whole thing. Thank God the officer did not actually hit anyone. This does not seem like prudent policing at all. It sounds like more training is needed if you ask me. The Oak Street incident is still fresh in my mind. Someone needs to take away the remote control from some of these cops watching too many TV dramas that they just can't WAIT to re-enact in real life. "
Great Job! wrote on Nov 18, 2008 12:50 PM:
" Great Job Hopkinton PD! Thank you for keeping our neigborhood clean.
It's too bad that there are residents responding thinking it's the PD fault for someone running from the law. The report stated that the driver "nearly pinning the officer to his vehicle". This is assult with a deadly weapon (the car) which constitutes the response of deadly force.
Thanks again. "
yeah, nice job wrote on Nov 18, 2008 12:24 PM:
" Please, the guy probably ran out of gas. I'm surprised the gun didn't get the hill street blues ala MOP. These guys have no clue what they are doing. "
Hope Valley Res wrote on Nov 18, 2008 11:45 AM:
" Nice job indeed. Thank you. "
Macho Chase wrote on Nov 18, 2008 10:53 AM:
" Did they guy commit a murder? Rape? What were the warrants? Putting the life and limb of the public at risk to capture a guy delinquent on child support is hardly praisworthy. Tell me what the warrants were for and I'll tell you if I agree with how this was handled.
I remember seeing an accident near Sunrise Market in Westerly years ago as the police chased a suspect through town. They all crashed into an innocent motorist. I'm tired of macho cops risking the lives of innocent people by getting into testosterone enhanced car chases. Notice it is rarely women doing the chasing or running?
We have too many cops in Westerly and in Hopkinton. Shooting the engine of a car is big news in the world of crime around here. Get rid of half the cops and give a raise to the rest. "
Nice Job! wrote on Nov 18, 2008 10:42 AM:
" Nice Job Hopkinton PD! This is the kind of situation that every police officer dreads but are well trained for. Nice to see your training and skills shine through when you need it the most. Yes we will see more crazy things like this, but at least we know our local boys in blue are up for the task at hand. By the way Police officers are way under payed for the amount of risk they partake in, this is a good example of Great police work, they got him in custody before he could do any real damage. Again Great Work! "