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Tribal land in trust, health care and the state’s finances come up during organization’s annual meeting
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![]() John Benjamin Carroll speaks at RISC's annual meeting on Saturday. JOSHUA LEBOVITZ / THE SUN |
“In order to protect your property interests, don’t think you can sit at home,’’ John Benjamin Carroll told several hundred coalition members, who gathered Saturday morning at the Shelter Harbor Golf Club for the group’s annual meeting.
“They’re well organized, well-financed and dead serious about not being a part of the United States,’’ Carroll said, referring to Indian tribes, such as the Narragansetts, who have been claiming more sovereign rights in recent years.
Carroll was one of three guest speakers at the sixth annual meeting of RISC, a non-profit group that has come together in recent years to advocate more transparency in government, tax structures that encourage business growth and an improved public education system, among other issues. At the start of meeting, the group’s chairman, Harry L. Staley, said that RISC is now really “catching its stride’’ and is about to make a major impact in Rhode Island.
Among its recent achievements, according to Staley: A law passed by the General Assembly in 2006 that caps the amount a town or city can raise its taxes by 5½ percent. The cap eventually declines to 4 percent.
“It has already had a tremendous impact on the state, forcing officials to take a hard look at how they spend money,” Staley said, thanking the organizations which worked with RISC to get the bill passed, among them the Rhode Island Expenditure Council and the Rhode Island Association of Realtors.
In addition, RISC has received a $300,000 grant from the Forrest C. Lattner Foundation, enabling the organization to hire an office manager, Staley said. If matching funds can be raised, the grant could ultimately total $500,000. Also, RISC is on the verge of launching a Web site called “Trailing Money,’’ which will list all of the contracts every town and city in the state has entered into, opening them up to public scrutiny. The Web site could be up as soon as September in a limited fashion, said Staley. The first town that will be looked at as part of the so-called Transparency Project is Westerly.
“I’m pleased to report that RISC is doing well and its future is brighter than its ever been,’’ Staley said.
In addition to these and other projects, Staley said RISC has spent a “great deal of time and great deal of money’’ filing an amicus brief in the case of Carcieri v. Kempthorne, which the U.S. Supreme Court is scheduled to hear this November. In that case, the state, town of Charlestown and RISC are appealing a decision that gives the Narragansetts 31 acres of trust lands in Charlestown — a move that puts the parcel under federal jurisdiction, as opposed to state and local law.
Carroll became involved in the case upon the death of Bruce Goodsell, who used to be RISC’s lawyer. Goodsell passed away on the day the brief was due — June 13 — and Carroll agreed to finish the task.
“The casino is only an income generator,’’ Carroll warned the 400 or so people who attended the meeting.
“They (Indians) use it buy political influence. They use it to buy real estate,’’ he said.
Carroll said he became personally involved in the growing Indian sovereignty movement when the Oneida tribe in New York asserted ownership over the land on which he had built his dream house. At that time, he was stunned to learn that even though he could trace his title back to 1800, and he believed his title was clear, his “castle’’ was now at risk from innovative legal arguments being asserted by a “Harvard-educated’’ lawyer for the Oneidas.
Carroll sardonically called Harvard Law School that “repository of conservative thinking,” getting a good laugh from the crowd.
These tribes do not consider themselves part of the United States, Carroll said. And once land is held in trust for them by the United States government, they are free to disregard state and local zoning laws, he added. If the Kempthorne case is upheld, it means a tribe can buy land anywhere, not even on its reservation or settlement lands, ask the government to hold it in trust, and then, essentially, do whatever it wants with it, he said.
“It isn’t just Rhode Island involved in this,’’ Carroll said, noting that 22 other states are facing similar Indian sovereignty issues.
On Nov. 3, the Supreme Court has the power “with a stroke of a pen’’ to end the confusion and uncertainty that has been generated by recent Indian sovereignty cases, Carroll said.
“Don’t sit on the sidelines,’’ he urged.
Saturday’s meeting was held beneath a bright, white tent overlooking the golf course. Before Carroll spoke, a member of The Westerly Hospital’s Board of Trustees talked about the state of health care in Rhode Island and how Rhode Island’s eight community hospitals, including The Westerly Hospital, are at risk if current trends continue.
Rhode Island’s specialty hospitals, such as Women & Infants and Butler, and its larger hospitals, such as Rhode Island and The Miriam, are doing okay but “if you’re one of the eight community hospitals, the outlook is not so bright,’’ William G. McKendree said.
McKendree listed several problems the community hospitals are facing, among them inconsistent reimbursement rates by the state’s two main health insurers, Blue Cross Blue Shield and United Health. The proposed merger of Lifespan and Care New England, will only exacerbate these problems, he said, recommending that the “mega-merger’’ be postponed until Rhode Island’s entire health care system be studied in detail.
“We need policies that encourage cooperation, not competitiveness,’’ he said.
If the merger goes through, the newly formed entity should be required to support community hospitals by sharing their doctors and nurses in training as well as by passing on some of the financial benefits they will reap as a result of their economy of scale, McKendree said.
During a question and answer session at the end of the meeting, many of the questions were for McKendree. But the morning’s third speaker, Professor Thomas Mathers, who called himself “the tick guy from URI’’ also generated a few. After hearing Mathers described the threats ticks can pose and how people can protect themselves, one man in the audience proposed that RISC add the health issue associated with ticks to the organization’s plate of interests.
“I agree with this gentleman that we should look at this as an advocacy issue,’’ Staley said.
rhodyredzone wrote on Aug 13, 2008 9:40 AM:
Gov. Carcieri is over his head; he hasn't a clue as to how to build a competitive economy. All he does is blame the General Assembly. Well, he's the one who led the fight against a RI casino that would've captured all that MA money flowing through our state into CT --- and some 3,500 new jobs that go with it.
He's also the bumpkin who went to the opening of a local coffee shop to celebrate a new business coming to RI. Imagine, celebrating minimum wage jobs that don't offer any health care?
Carcieri's so out-of-touch that he thinks the RISC is a "groovy, happening, super-cool group."
Oops, sorry. I forgot; Carcieri's not a product of the 60's, he's a 50's kind of guy. More of a "golly gee, Mrs. Cleaver, are Wally and the Beaver home?"
Love our 1950's economy, guv! "
Re: A little common sense wrote on Aug 10, 2008 7:07 PM:
A little common sense wrote on Aug 9, 2008 1:30 PM:
Everyone that responds here has the ability to Google RISC’s website and read for themselves what the organization stands for and tries to accomplish through their membership.
Also for “NY Lawyer???”: The article states that the NY lawyer was asked to help out because of the unfortunate and untimely death of RISC’s lawyer Bruce Goodsell (from Westerly) the very day that the brief was to be filed. It would benefit everyone that reads this blog if the people making comments actual based their comments in fact and not fallacy. "
NY Lawer??? wrote on Aug 9, 2008 2:58 AM:
Re: Bradford Parent wrote on Aug 5, 2008 1:59 PM:
Bradford Parent wrote on Aug 5, 2008 7:10 AM:
it's a done deal from folks working at town hall--the staff is not happy "
Re: Regular wrote on Aug 4, 2008 9:40 PM:
regular wrote on Aug 4, 2008 4:55 PM:
Re: Swamp Yankee wrote on Aug 4, 2008 2:21 PM:
Tommy wrote on Aug 4, 2008 1:17 PM:
Everyman wrote on Aug 4, 2008 11:22 AM:
SwampYankee wrote on Aug 4, 2008 11:16 AM:
Judging by these remarks alone - right out of the NEA and pro-Casino talking points - RISC must be doing something right.
I might not have a lot of money or own a beach home but I can't afford to have my taxes go any higher - and really don't want to see a new casino in South County. If you like the corruption and status quo in RI, then I'd definately recommend you form a group to oppose RISC - then again, I think those groups have been well formed and in control for decades - and that's clearly alarmed quite a few of these respondents.
That's clear for everyone to see by all these pro-casino pro-high taxes union members responding on this website.
"
SwampYankee wrote on Aug 4, 2008 10:43 AM:
Judging by these remarks alone - right out of the NEA and pro-Casino talking points - RISC must be doing something right.
I might not have a lot of money or own a beach home but I can't afford to have my taxes go any higher - and really don't want to see a new casino in South County. If you like the corruption and status quo in RI, then I'd definately recommend you form a group to oppose RISC - then again, I think those groups have been well formed and in control for decades - and that's clearly alarmed quite a few of these respondents.
That's clear for everyone to see by all these pro-casino pro-high taxes union members responding on this website.
"
YES! wrote on Aug 4, 2008 8:08 AM:
Hater of Carpetbaggers wrote on Aug 3, 2008 8:50 PM:
Richard C. Anthony, Westerly
Robert P. Arruda, East Greenwich
Thomas M. Battista, Charlestown
James T. Beale, Jr., Westerly
Roy Bonner, Little Compton
Muriel Camarra, North Kingstown
Finn M. W. Caspersen, Jr., Westerly
Richard Croke, East Providence
Thomas C. DePatie, Charlestown
Lawrence J. Fitzmorris, Portsmouth
Thomas G. Frost, Charlestown
Martha Hosp, Charlestown
Roy F. Jeffrey, Westerly
Kallie Jurgens, Charlestown
Kernan King, Saunderstown
Sandra Lewinski, Cumberland
Harriet S. Lloyd, Westerly
Thomas M. Lloyd, Jr., Westerly
Beatrice Lombardo, Westerly
Gail Mallard, Westerly
Lloyd Monroe, Rumford
William Murphy, East Providence
Frances Myszka, Westerly
Edward O'Neill, Lincoln
Anne Stout Parsells, Charlestown
Hollis Petersen, Westerly
Nancy Richmond, Westerly
Alfred Sculco, Westerly
Richard A. Smith, Westerly
Thomas Shawyer, Charlestown
Grant G. Simmons, Westerly
Harry L. Staley, Westerly
Jayne R. Staley, Westerly
Ronald Mark Stewart, M.D., Lincoln
James H. Thorp, Westerly
Antone Viveiros, Middletown
Thomas C. Wigand, Middletown
EMERITUS DIRECTORS
Howard M. Fry, Westerly
Robert K. Gable, Charlestown
Hayward H. Gatch, Westerly
Norman McLeod, Wakefield
Edward J. Murphy, Westerly
Robert L. Prosser, Westerly
I would be interested to know how many of these people are actually registered voters of RI.
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been on vacay, but a regular wrote on Aug 3, 2008 7:21 PM:
RISC is NOT "a non-profit group" (a la a 501c3) Nope. Not a chance. It's a Political Action Committee with a political agenda. "
RISC is Smart wrote on Aug 3, 2008 5:57 PM:
Harry wrote on Aug 3, 2008 4:54 PM:
Re: Joesixpack wrote on Aug 3, 2008 4:47 PM:
RISCARY wrote on Aug 3, 2008 3:39 PM:
JoeSixPack wrote on Aug 3, 2008 2:26 PM:
Casinos prey on the low income and those with low incomes are the least able to see their taxes go up. The only "threat to our way of life" is evidenced by the above people who are clearly pro-casino and pro-taxes, who clearly want to make a profit on the back of an average Joe.
Shame on you. The true special interests in the state - especially the Union leaders who profit from their own membership - HATE what RISC is doing and would prefer to sell off RI to the highest casino bidder.
Keep up the good work RISC. "
Concerned wrote on Aug 3, 2008 12:28 PM:
Why is the Lattner Foundation making 'grants' to an organization not charitable or tax exempt? Isn't that illegal? "
Hater of Carpetbaggers wrote on Aug 3, 2008 12:22 PM:
The meeting was where?? wrote on Aug 3, 2008 10:23 AM:
Contracts Available wrote on Aug 3, 2008 9:28 AM:
WESTERLY A TARGET! wrote on Aug 3, 2008 9:17 AM:
Please Help the Common Person wrote on Aug 3, 2008 8:51 AM:
Stamp them out wrote on Aug 3, 2008 8:27 AM:
RISCARY wrote on Aug 3, 2008 7:39 AM:
Fire District owner-John wrote on Aug 3, 2008 7:31 AM:
no one tells us anymore "
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